Scorm 2004 output

Thanks Matt and Helen.

I stand corrected! I can see the interactions data in the SCORM log.

The reason I did not think it had worked is because (I may be expecting too much here), I expected the course to use the data so that when I returned to the course, I would see my chosen responses in the MCQs and also able to see the feedback again. Like how it works when the Local Storage Extension is enabled.

The reporting data is great and will come in handy though.

Ah OK I see. That is indeed technically possible with cmi.interactions in SCORM 2004 and is something I have suggested as a possible future development path.

For now I’m afraid it is just reporting interaction data i.e. the data is being written to the LMS but not read back in.

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Extremely interesting @Matt_Leathes !! This is the one thing almost every customer is complaining. That after opening an e-learning later (if you visit a course for instance 1 year later), all quiz information disappeared and only wrong or correct is displayed.
I wonder whether this can really only be solved with scorm 2004? What we use as a workaround and costs us a lot of time is that we add answers as a block with logic. So that a solution is always displayed later with a trigger instead of the original question. This is very unsatisfactory to implement everytime. And this works fine with scorm 1.2.

HI Pablo, depending on the client, we place Action buttons underneath the MCQs that allow the learner to reset the question.

It does not affect course completion or locking, but if the component is tracked in the menu buttons, the menu button progress indicator will go down, and remain down if the question is not answered again.

Good idea. We will try it out @BarryBPS . In my opinion, this is also a workaround. Here, too, you always have to create a logic for each question. Users often want to look at the solution again later. In your scenario, however, they still have to solve the task again to get to the answer.

Yep, it’s a workaround, which can be quite painful as you need a couple of triggers per MCQ.

I can’t remember the exact number of triggers, but I do remember the pain! :grin:

It’s not the greatest of solutions, but has kept clients happy.

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The problem is the additional storage required to save and restore all the user’s responses could easily exceed the (very) limited ‘suspend data’ storage allowed in SCORM 1.2 - and you can’t use cmi.interactions either because in SCORM 1.2 they are ‘write only’.

I think what might make most sense would be to extend the ‘Use Advanced Tracking’ functionality of Evolve so that it can also handle saving/restoring question responses and then - as with the current Advanced Tracking - it’s up to the course author to check it works OK on their LMS.

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Sounds good. Thank you @Matt_Leathes for your response.
A thought: A great deal would be achieved already if the quiz feedback could simply be displayed in a fixed way. When a quiz has been answered, it should just always show the solution text. That would be the most elegant and perhaps technically the simplest solution.

Yes that is an interesting possibility.

I was also thinking that if you had Advanced Tracking enabled it should allow ‘Show Feedback’ (or automatically show inline feedback) since in that setup it does know if the learner answered the question correctly or not.

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In my opinion, it is not necessary to know whether the answer was right or wrong. It is important that a general solution explanation can be displayed as text. I don’t think it is relevant here whether we are talking about scorm 1.2 or 1.3. The information as to whether a question has been answered has always been available.

Sure, I was just thinking that with that it would allow one possible workaround in that you could list the correct answers as part of the feedback text i.e. ‘That’s correct, the capital of France is Paris!’

TBH I think your idea is the better one although I think it might be a bit odd if you originally answered the question incorrectly then returned to see it showing that you answered incorrectly but with the correct answers selected. A ‘show correct answer’ button would probably be the best workaround for that.

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Show correct answers button sounds like a very good solution @Matt_Leathes !!! Thank you for the conversation.

And additional an inline solution explanation would make it almost perfect.

@Matt_Leathes

Is this topic part of your roadmap? I have identified the following 2 important points in this discussion feed:

  • read back data from LMS: “… the course to use the data so that when I returned to the course, I would see my chosen responses in the MCQs and also able to see the feedback again” … “the data is being written to the LMS but not read back in.”

  • “show correct answer” Button

In my opinion, this functionality would dramatically improve the overall user experience.

Because the way it is now (see screenshot), quizzes after revisiting a course are, in my opinion, completely useless. I can’t see what’s wrong. I don’t see any explanation. Just the message “wrong” and 3 possible answers.